I will be the first to say that I would love to do the radio but I am seriously not a reliable person.  T_T

Azh, if you send me the tutorials and stuff I am very willing to try setting up some pre-recorded shows and if I set up ten or so in advance (Just for extreme cases when I just kind of vanish for extended periods of time) then there will be things for when I flake?  Would a system like that work well enough?  I would love to DJ and getting the chance to DJ will bring my partner onto the boards.  He's always wanted to DJ but (no offense if he ever reads this) he's not very reliable either so he'd likely set up a similar system.  ^^'

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Here is an example for how it can work:

At 4:00 PM Central time one user finishes there set. Another gets on at 4:10 and continues till 9:00 central time. (I'm using central time to give an idea for it, it can be set up differently when we get it started.) The music could be set up so that it shifts from one genera to another when the next DJ  comes on, or if we can agree on music we have one person play there favorites in that genera then the next person do the same. (/end)

Okay, I like this idea only because I know a site that does this. If you have heard of he site called Fubar.com Its a site that has many different channels and amongst the channels are different mods and admins, and DJs. Its all about the music, many DJ's, many songs, many places. I mean the radio would be good, but I just dont think its out there enough. I mean its probably something easy to go to, but I just dont think it would be enough to get people interested [yes I can be pessimistic] if you do decide upon the radio things I would think request and music sharing should be incorporated.

The only other things I can think of is directed more to the lack of traffic. Maybe not enough people are spreading the word? I hate to offer this suggestion, but try putting advertisements on furry dating sites, every one there is simply looking for some one to relate to I know of a couple if examples are needed. Maybe even gaia *I know I know, but its simply a thought.*

Anyways. I know seems like a thoughtless post, but I have plenty of ideas and examples, I just dont know how to display them entirely heh. But talk to me if you are looking for ideas of how to attract people and all that jazz. YOu know where to find me

I'm clearly pretty far behind on this save-the-site train.  I'll admit I've been one of the biggest offenders of long, unexplained absences.  But I'm here for the long haul. 

I don't really know how to do much with the site, but I'm willing to learn how to do more upkeep type things and I have more time that I can be putting into the site now.  Argon moved in with me and has been kind of monopolizing my computer until now but I'm back and here to stay.  I know it's not really manpower you need and I don't have much to add, but I just thought that probably knowing you have your staff who is loyal and willing to help execute whatever you decide to do. 

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That's really all.

Having skimmed over this topic, I can't say for sure if these ideas have already been brought forward, however, here are some from my head:

• Have a panel, booth, or what have you at conventions. This is a costly, but effective way to get knowledge out there. Possibly have a computer (Locked down to the table, of course) with the site running on it, or the chat.
• Merchandising. Sell T-shirts and other related apparel. This is a not as costly, but also not as effective way to get your product out there.

Both of those ideas are good, at least to me, but I do admit a problem with the second one: Where would the t-shirts be sold at, and how do we drive people towards that site? What kinds of designs do we want? What do we want the shirts to say? Alas, I have little to no artistic talent, so I can not assist with pictorial graphics. However, I can try my paw at creating a textual slogan, address, or what have you to put on the shirt. If there is interest in that, that is.

That is so expensive and panels at booth at conventions are useless unless you go to every convention in every city all over the world.

T-shirts...maybe?  It could work, in theory, but furries are too few and far between for T-shirts to be effective at advertising because only furries would see it.  Plus...furries are poor so maybe 5 people would buy a shirt off this site and the chances of those five people running into furs that would care enough to come here are ridiculously slim.

Maybe sell the t-shirts for a few bucks? Sure, it'd put it in the red, but it would get the word out, nonetheless.

Even if they were a few bucks I don't think it would be worth the waste, but that's just my opinion, it's obviously Azh's call in the end.

I'm for the shirt idea, but there are a few snags. First being, yes, furries typically don't have a lot of money. Not sure why that is really. I think there are many successful ones out there if you consider the cost of some comissions. However, there aren't exactly millionaires on here. Plus, how is goig to design it? It should be something people would pay at least 10 or 12 dollars for.

I do really like idea of having a booth at a convention or two though. There aren't exactly a ton of furry conventions in the U.S. let alone the rest of the world. I suppose we could sneak in a booth at an anime convention or something similar, but furrydom isn't exactly going to get the best attention at E3.

My suggestion is this, we consider doing just one convention for now. Just as an idea. We get some shirt designs and maybe make a few to hand out to people at the con. A cheap silk screen should be abut $5 a shirt if we do it right. We see how many new followers we get and go from there.

In the meantime, I highly, HIGHLY, suggest that we work together to create new content that really peaks peoples instrests. Otherwise we might as well be asking people, "Hey! Look what we made! Neat huh? It's a chat room where you can talk to furries from all over! Come on and sign up!"

Like Azh keeps saying. We need content. I've heard some great ideas so far. Customizable chat avatars, f-list like interest pages, iPhone furry connect app, (that's not a bad idea really), pod casts, radio, merit system like awards for so many posts/followers on FA and the like and much more.

The issue is, who is going to put it all together? Once we actually have something to sell, then we can worry about distribution. Otherwise we might as well we can't expect anyone to really buy into this for no reason other than a chat room that gets less traffic than yiffy, and a system of forums that is only good for games and general discussion.

(sorry for any typos, I have to use my iPhone to type this and yes, I hate my phone. Inhate y iPhone very much) 

--Customizable chat avatars[ this is a pretty big hit on a lot of places I go. People like the instantaneous feeling instead of clicking links, and it peeks interests to know what the characters are like. I am not sure where the programming comes into and how difficult it is to make the site with this, but it is a pretty big hit.]

--iPhone furry connect app [ This sounds cool but again how much would it cost considering a hefty bunch of us are broke..]

--pod casts, radio [This seems a lot simpler, and about the closest thing in our reach cost wise, I would...think?]

--merit system like awards for so many posts/followers on FA and the like and much more.

I guess it all comes down to cost. So maybe we should start a donation system so we could afford to get this cool stuff, that is if we cant do it on our own or pay for it with our own pocket. I know Azh said he wasnt looking for donation, but thats what it really comes down to, a little here and there could go a long way and I dont think it would be a complete loss. Cause if you have to pay programmers *if none of us are one* then I believe that does need to be done.

Azh good buddy,  i don't think there is a single thing wrong with furry within.
   ever hear the saying "The fan's don't know what they want"? In this Case its the truth too. Some people are so focused on what they think they lack that they don't see what we truly have.
   We have great Role players who know how to play, persuade and seduce men into hormone induced Coma's. We have Friendly furs that always have an ear out for those who feel hurt. We have a great community that is slowly growing into something great. We have idea's that flow freely to one another about role plays and just general commodores of furs who've known each other so long.
      And here is how this site is different from all the others, We lack drama those other sites produce on a daily basis. We lack the ability to discriminate because someone can't spell a word here or there. We lack a standardized popular line of who is who and why they are so great.
   Yiffy.Net did not become popular over night with thousands of furs flocking to it because, Well It was something special. It was about the people in it that made is special until all that Drama mama Came along.
     When I look upon this site, I see room's and room's of potential for what it is. Not because of all the toys we have, Not because we have a radio station. Not because we have a chat.  Sometimes it takes a little for people to really see what Furry within is all about. Where its going, What we the furs want it to be.  But it takes time for people to understand this.
          We will get there eventually, And be where you want us to be Azh. But look at the progress you've made thus far? And the  creative minds that have come because of it. Some Furs, All they really want is to get laid. other furs simply want others to hang around. Some just wanna have a little fun before they go to bed.
  If you ask me you got a lot of good things going on here....
       There isn't very much you can improve on any ways Azh. People will be people and they will always come and go.

As a mod, I'd just like to say that I LUV YEW GUIZE!!!

Thanks for caring about my favorite place in the world. <3

Its cause its OUR favorite place too nellie dear

I haven't been around as much as I should and for that, I do apologize everyone. Work has been crazy and if it's not work, it's something else. I want this site to succeed and to thrive. Now, I'm not a technical person and I don't really know what all is required for a podcast but I think that could gather more viewers. I'd hate for Azh to close down this site after he spent a great deal of time and money trying to make it work. I'm doing my best to be on more often and to contribute to the site more.

I know I am actually probably the largest offender of vanishing from FW to the point I probably deserve some sort of award or something for it lol, but yes I would like this site to pick up again like it was before I poofed for a bit..actaully thats part of the reason I poofed..there was pretty much zero activity even in the chat, even when there were 9 or so people in nobody would speak for about 2 hours at a time most of the time.

We need to encourage new members that join and not treat them like invisible fleas. Try to rp with people and no nagging them about smaller posts, some people are just getting into rp'ing you know and need to build up experience to pump out paragraphs, don't just outright refuse to rp with them, ease up on your posts to make them more comfortable and encourage them to continue instead of scoff at them, I wont name names but there are a few here guilty of that..and a few guilty of just discouraging people from being in chat or on the site by nagging at them because they have some personal beef with the other member, and instead of ignoring them they just make subtle or not so subtle remarks about them or to them and that drives them away, including some really good and experienced rp'ers. Ignore button..use it instead of griping.

Also, there is one thing that is amazing that would help here with users in chat, and that is the system yiffy.tk uses for character profiles, its easier and more user friendly than having to go to the forums and make a new post and all, and it has the ability to easily put in a picture of your char than embedding a pic in the forums, its also faster to make a char that way when everything is set up and seperated, such as history, about, interests and so on, and you can still put in a backstory for your character as well, easier to navigate too, with just a click of the mouse or two you can see who you are looking for rather than digging through the forums for a thread that might be buried under a few pages of threads and then searching for the character in the thread.

Ok that is my rant with my..well thats probably more than two cents worth but meh..its how I feel and what I think might help, not trying to discourage anyone just pointing out things that could be changed that would make people want to join and tell their friends that its a great place to join, even if my opinions aren't welcome for reasons of my once being a mod here and no longer having that duty or my quite possibly being the God of Inactivity.

There is one thing I have noticed around the site, myself I spent most time in the game forum and put up a lot of the ones I liked to play... then well the new wow came out and I got drawn in and was playing that mostly.  I am kinda back still only talking to old friends in the chat and staying away from the forums myself.  I know bad kitty but what I am not seeing is a real reason to head to the forums.

The profiles say nothing about the fur I am talking to in chat and I have to did around to hope to find who or what they are.

There is no bonus for rping on the forums or posting in the forum.  I miss the shops that add reasons to post and things to get ^^.  I am a gamer kitty thru and thru and stuff like this give me a reason to pay attention and enjoy reading/posting on the forums.

Adding things like voice chats, radios and games from the site will bring people to sign up for the site but will not help give a reason for posting.

As for rping, there is some fun topics yes, but there is not a very big section for things.  It might be worth looking into making stand alone World threads or School threads.  I have been wishing for a site to have something like this since I was on yiffy and still never got it approved.  It might be looking into to.

For the above topic I will give a good description of what I am talking about.  Make a spot in the forum for the name of the rp, like Furry Within Highschool.  Have a sticky topic of rules for the School, what the time is, what type of characters are allowed, like modern day, earth biased furs.  Then you can have another sticky topics for Character Sign up's and profiles for this said world, staff and students.  As for topics they are all biased on the school, classes with teachers posting work and stuff, Dorm rooms for Furs to rp with each other or day to day things.  School events.  Things like this that give a good concept of what to expect out of the rp and limits to what will happen in the rp.

It is also a good idea for Worlds you think up or just game remakes like Resident evil, Final Fantasy, World of warcraft, and turning them into furry fun.

It is just the few inputs I have and I hope it helps.

Natina =^_^=